This one is famous for being said by the religious community at large: particularly in charismatic circles.
This has got to be one of many of the funniest sayings of the religious. It is erroneous to say the least. What is even more interesting is when you ask a person who says this, “what happened at church today”, they can’t tell you what the message was or anything, and many of them shy off into this, “I can’t really explain it” position. hmmmmm
They boast all this excitement yet have no fruit. Everything in their life is still the same mes it was before church. They are no better off than those who get high or drink to chase away reality: rather than facing it.
They are not filled with the Holy Spirit but would rather be slain in it.. LOL
LOVE YALL, you know what to do.
Make sure that all scripture used is in it’s proper context. Thouroughly expound your point, and say what you mean, don’t make us guess…
Valerie Withers at 5:30pm June 8
they are basing their experience on the emotion of the moment…not like the men their on the road in Luke24:32 “And they said to one another,did not our hearts burn within us, while He talked with us by the way, and while He opened up the Scriptures to us.” This is based on the Lord opening their eyes and they beholding wondrous things out of the Word of GOD…not the intoxicating beating of the drums or who could say “who stole my Honda” or “Come and tie my bowtie” the fastest or longest, or loudest. That’s ‘em having ‘chuch.” Then won’t speak to you on the way out, or see if you need a ride ’cause they just asked u when u gettin’ yo car fixed…
Kristal Giles at 5:38pm June 8
LOL. I love it. Basing a relationship on experience leaves them opened to whatever makes them feel good. That leaves the door opened for the flesh to explorer it’s options.
Hey Valerie, how about we no longer refer to the Father as Baal (LORD), nor an uncertain affinity (GOD) anymore sis. We know him by name.
Love Yah
Valerie Withers at 6:00pm June 8
OKAY, what name is Paul referring to when he writes that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess the Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of GOD the Father? I would like to use that one…Not Yeshua Adonai, then what. I want to keep a teachable spirit.
Kristal Giles at 6:46pm June 8
Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Yahushua the Messiah is master/teacher to the glory of YHWH the Father.
Here’s a similar verse:
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine…. that men may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Adonai is what the jewish rejectors of the Messiah and rejectors of YHWH called the Father. They have a multiple fold purpose for this, 1. they hate him and want to remain idolatrous. 2. They are like a jealous hateful suitor who has the mindset of “I don’t want you, but I don’t want nobody else to have you.” 3. In their oral law (tradition of the elders/talmud) they make the unbiblical claims that the Father’s name is not to be spoken. LIES!!!
We must also not forget that the translators of the English bible were not inspired by YHWH. His word in it’s original text is inspired by those whom he selected to pen it. Also the scripture is not naturally discerned but spiritually discerned.
Kristal Giles at 6:47pm June 8
Paul didn’t refer to the Father and the son by the translated terms, but rather by their names.
Valerie Withers at 7:13pm June 8
Yahusua Messiah it is! See won’t that easy?
Tiffany Green at 9:23pm June 8
soooo true. no notebook, no change, no transformation…
Bryan R.L. Buchanan at 10:21pm June 8
I only have one thing to say about this….Stop Focusing on trying to “Have Church” and Simply BE The Church that you were Called Out To Be.
Kristal Giles at 10:55pm June 8
absolutely none Tiffany. I keep telling these retrards they don’t know YHWH. If they know him intimately wouldn’t they know his address? LOL
It ain’t the church address..although they call it his house. YIKES.
Bryan: Their focus is the building and not the builder of men. We will never be the church. The church is a building. The ekklesia/body of the Messiah is what those who are of the family of YHWH are.
THE CALLED OUT ONES.
Tiffany Green at 10:56pm June 8
yesss!! so many ppl will be part of the church but not part of THEE CHURCH that is connected to Christ body. and will feel really cheap on judgement day
Kristal Giles at 11:02pm June 8
let’s just throw the word church out. It is not anything ordained and set up by the Father, but rather by men.
Check out the definitions:
church |t??rt?|
noun
a building used for public Christian worship : they came to church with me.
• (usu. Church) a particular Christian organization, typically one with its own clergy, buildings, and distinctive doctrines : the Church of England.
• ( the Church) the hierarchy of clergy of such an organization, esp. the Roman Catholic Church or the Church of England.
• institutionalized religion as a political or social force : the separation of church and state.
• the body of all Christians
WHERE IS THE FATHER IN THIS? NOT THERE AS HE DIDN’T INSTITUTE RELIGION BUT RELATIONSHIP..
Tiffany Green at 11:03pm June 8
wow..sick.
Kristal Giles at 11:03pm June 8
very clear definition isn’t it?
Tiffany Green at 11:05pm June 8
Ephesians 1: 22And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
Pastor Di at 11:16pm June 8
“I keep telling these retards they don’t know YHWH” Wow…nice…hhmmmm….
Valerie…its interesting that you quoted Luke 4:32, however, with the current argument’s logic…that would be simply an emotional statement as well, since no where in the text did they ever disclose the substance of what Jesus’ said. The statement…”didn’t our hearts burn” is no more indicative of the substance of Jesus’ message than “Wow, Pastor blessed me with that word.” Why all the fuss about such meaningless play on words… “we had church” is merely an expression, and to presuppose as some have indicated on this post, that it indicates a simply emotional experience is no more relative than assuming because a person says “I love fried chicken” means they truly are expressing an intimate relationship or deep emotional attachment to chicken. It’s a figure of speech. We accept the translation of Hebrew words into English, because we are English speaking…
Kristal Giles at 11:17pm June 8
church is the word translated from the word ekklesia. I dare you to study the origin of the word church and study where it was derived.
Tiffany Green at 11:24pm June 8
i know what it means….
called out…or assembly of believers
thank god i went to a bible teaching church that promoted studying the greek and hebrew 
Bryan R.L. Buchanan at 11:27pm June 8
I agree Kristal…That Which you Described is NOT the Church. The Issue IS NOT The Word “Church”, but how men have chosen to Define. Any Child of God Knows that what u described is an Institution…Not The Church/Ekklesia that Paul speaks of Eph 5:25-27. Any Child of God Knows that Church refers to the Body of Believers themselves. The Building/House is Not the Church. The People are The Church. The Building Does Not Become The Church until The Church/Believers Shows/Show Up. The Body of Believers/The Church is The Temple of God (1 Cor 3 & 6) NOT The Buidling.
The Child of God Knows that The Church/Temple of God is Not Made By Man’s Hands.
“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;” Acts 17:24-15
Kristal Giles at 11:29pm June 8
You accept those words Don’t speak for us all. Many of those words change the purpose and meaning of the original text, however since the word is spiritually discerned, those who are born of the spirit of YHWH will get it and those who are not…..
Just as Yahushua spoke in parables, for it was only given to them that are within and not without to understand the mysteries of the Kingdom.
Call it what you will Di, it won’t change the truth.
Read the scripture and you will find that indeed the disciples spoke of what Yahushua talked to them about.
BTW, “WE HAD CHURCH” was what was being addressed, If you are hungry, might I suggest fried chicken…LOL
cont…
Kristal Giles at 11:31pm June 8
You jump on Valerie as if you know of what you speak. Titles mean nothing on this thread Di, you are either in the Family of YHWH or not.
Let’s go over Luke 24 just to show your folly.
Luke 24:14And they (the disciples) talked together of all these things which had happened.
15And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Yahushua himself drew near, and went with them.
16But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
cont…
Kristal Giles at 11:32pm June 8
17And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before YHWH and all the people:
20And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
21But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
Kristal Giles at 11:33pm June 8
KEEP READING DI:
22Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;
23And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.
24And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26Ought not the Messiah to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
here we go….
Kristal Giles at 11:34pm June 8
27And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
28And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
29But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.
30And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
KNOW OF WHAT YOU SPEAK AND THEN DO SHARE….
Pastor Di at 11:35pm June 8
I don’t care about titles either…I stand corrected about that particular scripture…I should have read it in its entirety…I was responding to her quote… Now lets deal with your folly…
Kristal Giles at 11:36pm June 8
There is a definite line drawn in the sand Bryan, which side do you stand?
The definition of church is the definition of church. The Ekklesia is just what it is the body of the Messiah, represented in his stead in this earth. They are two distinct bodies with two distinct missions/purposes.
Kristal Giles at 11:38pm June 8
Stand corrected and move on ma’am. Don’t make it up as you go along. “Now lets deal with your folly… “You will be either justified or condemned by the words you speak, so choose your words carefully. There is no folly in doing my Father’s will.
Bryan R.L. Buchanan at 11:42pm June 8
Kristal, Sis, what are u talking about? When the word “Church” is used in the Bible, it does not denote what you’ve described. I agreed with you. What u described is Not What God Intended. The Church is The Body of Believers Themselves…Not The Building. U r right, when the word “Church” is used in the Bible the Greek Word is Ekklesia, and I know this word is referring to the Believers themselves, Not To the Building or Religious Doctrines. In addition…I agree Jesus did not Come, Died, Was Burried, and Rise Again to Bring Religion, But to Restore Right Relationship.
I already know what side of the Fence I am On. 
Pastor Di at 11:46pm June 8
As I was saying…we accept English translations because we are English speaking…unless you are a Hebrew, or have studied the language in depth, then you are still accepting SOMEBODY’S translation. Translation is very different from interpretation. You noted that the English translators were not “inspired.” You don’t need to be inspired to translate a word, you only need to know what the original word says. The spanish word for house is “casa.” Translated in English, again casa means house. No inspiration is required, understanding and knowledge of spanish is. So if you call him Yahushua, and others say the correct pronunciation or translation is Yeshua, and the english translation is Jesus…then you are still saying the same thing. It’s interesting how this same argument arose approximately 10-15 years ago where a faction of “believers” decided we should no longer call the Savior Jesus. And here you are calling folks “retards” because they don’t agree with you.
Kristal Giles at 11:51pm June 8
I am saying the church is what the church is and the word was used with a purpose in mind. Taking man’s focus off of the real building and making it’s focus a physical edifice is only part of it, taking man’s focus off of the Father and making it man is the truth of why it is called what it is. The enemy will use whom will let him to serve his purpose. Remember this: he is not interested in convincing you of no creator but to be worshiped as HIM. Thus, “I will exalt my throne above the stars of heaven, I will be like the most high..”
Just want to make that point clear, so there is no vacillation, Bryan.
Pastor Di at 11:55pm June 8
You are right about one thing…titles or lack there of is irrelevant and insignificant (note by the way, you were the one that mentioned anything to do with my title…not me). What is important is understanding and knowledge…Unfortunately, neither you or I know everything. What I do KNOW, when I gave my life to God some 28 years ago, I called him JESUS. It was Jesus that delivered me from a life of drugs, nicotine, promiscuity, and a whole host of other stuff. And contrary to your negative experience and those who agree with you my life was turned around for the better because of my affiliation with a Bible believing and teaching “church”. Or for your benefit, “ekklesia” (called out/gathering/assembly/congregation) which you were so presumptoua to assume that the readers on this thread had no idea of the meaning lol… I have several Hebrew/Greek Lexicons, etc…and alot of folk that have been in anybody’s church for the last decade has some familiarity with the “original” text
Kristal Giles at 11:58pm June 8
The point in mentioning the fact that they were not inspired was so that others would understand that a person who has no concern for the words spoken can translate as they are bidded to do by their authority without reservation.
I wouldn’t give the words my Father speaks to me to an atheist to translate into other languages because he will push his agenda via my words…
No matter that things were changed, as was secular history. Study uncovers facts, and the Holy Spirit guides those who belong to the Father into ALL TRUTH.
You take my words out of context. The retards I was referring to were those who think the church is YHWH’s house.
“I keep telling these retrards they don’t know YHWH. If they know him intimately wouldn’t they know his address? LOL
It ain’t the church address..although they call it his house. YIKES.” READ IN CONTEXT DI, you are showing how you read scripture.
You can’t study unless you study. “we accept English translations because we are English speaking.
Pastor Di at 12:02am June 9
Notwithstanding…our grandparents didn’t know a lick of it, but they knew how to live holy lives, how to pray, how to lay hands on the sick, how to cast out devils, etc. etc…and all that they did without the benefit of literary knowledge to which we are privy today. And Kristal, they didn’t call him Yahushua either. They called him JESUS and they lived lives to try and bring him Glory. And sometimes they dared to make the statement…”Lawd, didn’t we have some church!” What that mother was saying is she enjoyed the presence and the power of the Lord. She enjoyed the Word of God, etc…I khow you don’t know me, and I don’t know you. I do not mean to come across as rude or disrespectful in any way. I, like yourself, have no problem speaking my mind, and I’m not intimidated on a post where my opinion is a minority one. I have read some of your other notes, periodically, and I get a little perturbed when I see folk lumping everybody into a particular category
Pastor Di at 12:08am June 9
because of their own personal experiences. It seems very critical and intensely narrow minded. I love a good discussion/debate (I’ve been on many on FB), but I like to explore real issues/concerns, not engage in stereotypical generalizations and cliches about “the church.”
Nevertheless, I appreciate being allowed to express my thoughts on this thread…
Pastor Di at 12:19am June 9
YIKES Kris…you are showing quite a few things yourself about an inability to follow an argument lol… Stay with me… If an atheist were to push his ideas into a “translation” of words, then it would go from being a “translation” to an “interpretation.” If someone says “casa” means “pretty house” then they have “added” to the translation an adjective describing the house. Thus it would indeed be an incorrectly rendered translation. Here however, is the real problem…If you don’t know spanish, then you are taking my word that “casa” means house. How much Hebrew/Greek do you know? Do you have a degree for a completed study. Were you raised speaking the original language? If not, then you are taking SOMEBODY’S word regarding the translation. Are you still with me…I know its a little late lol…
Pastor Di at 12:22am June 9
Hey Bryan…I think what Kris wants you to do is not use the word “church” anymore. The fact that you understand that we the believers are the body of Christ, the church, is not withstanding, because her argument is that the word “church” is incorrect period! She will also appreciate you calling Jesus Yeshushua the Messiah, and God (must be rendered YHWEH)… Did I get that right Kris?
Kristal Giles at 12:23am June 9
“we accept English translations because we are English speaking…unless you are a Hebrew, or have studied the language in depth”
AGAIN, “SPEAK FOR YOURSELF”
STUDY DENOTES devotion of time and attention to the acquiring of information/knowledge of the Word of YHWH. Investigation which is detailed shows love and concern for the words the Father left for his children’s review.
You don’t study by reading, but by taking the words and studying their meanings. Just because the words are in English doesn’t mean it’s in current English. (the King’s English) The mere fact it’s been translated should be cause for study.
You made my point quiet clearly, thank you. If the translated word and the original word don’t match in their meanings, there is a translational error. Thus the word church and Ekklesia are not the same word and don’t have the same meaning, so it is best to hold to the original word before translation.
Kristal Giles at 12:24am June 9
“you only need to know what the original word says. The spanish word for house is “casa.” Translated in English, again casa means house.”
The name Jesus, upon study has no meaning. Study it for yourself, and while you are at it, study that fact that names are not translated. Transliterated based on phonetics and letters available in languages, yes, but not changing names.. They are what they are no matter what language it’s spoken in. Jesus and Yahushua are not the same person. No more than God, Lord, Jehovah, and Adonai are YHWH.
I don’t call people fools because they don’t agree with me, but only when they don’t agree with my Father, and feign knowledge of him.
Twisting my words is becoming a habit for you… LOL
Pastor Di at 12:33am June 9
Now for a question…are you saying there is no such thing as a “house of God?” You know the place where the retards gather? lol Is it not possible for a “church” to be a “house of God? in your opinion…
Kristal Giles at 12:33am June 9
“let’s just throw the word church out. It is not anything ordained and set up by the Father, but rather by men.”
YOU DON’T PAY ATTENTION DI. I’M GOING TO REST NOW AND PICK UP LATER ON THIS SUBJECT.
Accept what you will, it’s your right. The Father created us and gave us free will. Truth will remain truth whether you accept it or not. You can’t dilute it.
Di, I find it offensive that you jumped into the conversation and failed to read all of the comments. You are definitely a part of the church, in every sense of the word:
a particular Christian organization, typically one with its own clergy, buildings, and distinctive doctrines : the Church of England.
• ( the Church) the hierarchy of clergy of such an organization, esp. the Roman Catholic Church or the Church of England.
• institutionalized religion as a political or social force : the separation of church and state.
• the body of all Christians
ENJOY CHURCH, IT WILL SOON BE CAST DOWN, AND THEN WHAT WILL YOU HAVE?
Kristal Giles at 12:47am June 9
Isaiah 66:1
Thus saith YHWH, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
Here’s the problem Di, you worship as did the men of Athens: an unknown god. The word God means of uncertain affinity, otherwise you would know that it is no possible for any “church” to be HIS house, he doesn’t dwell in temples made by hands. Not my opinion, search the scriptures. I’ll post more later today.
Love Yah
Kristal Giles at 12:48am June 9
“You know the place where the retards gather? lol”
That was truly humorous….
Pastor Di at 12:59am June 9
blah blah blah Kris lol…By the way…I read the comments…so you got offended for nothing..lol….By the way, you dont know me or anything about me… so please stop acting like you do… and just because you “CLAIM” to speak for the Father, doesn’t mean you actually do! In fact, you sound alot like the very organization that you criticize… Most preachers say they speak for him too…but of course…YOU ARE DIFFERENT…We all should believe you…lol…We agree on one thing…Truth is truth whether you accept it or not. YOU CAN’T DILUTE IT and YOU CAN’T CREATE YOUR OWN! The true church will never be cast down…the gates of hell can not prevail against the true church/the true body of Christ…oops…I said that word again…even though you specifically told me to throw it out…I’m such a defiant one…lol….
So to your question what will I have….? I have a relationship with Jesus Christ and I am a part of his body… the ekklesia, the called out….
Pastor Di at 1:07am June 9
thus I will be as his adoring and anxious bride “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”KJV because I love him and have surrendered my life to him…. I leave you with this quote about truth…
“From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth; from the laziness that is content with half-truths; from the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth – oh God of Truth deliver us!—
Good night!
Reggie V D Merwe at 3:15am June 9
Hi Kristal
I’ve been following this conversation for the past few hours. Since early this morning (South African time)LOL
Kristal I’m glad you are standing your ground on this.
Have people forgotten the ‘dark ages’? You know period of time the pagan religions and ‘christianity’ became one? Anyone one who had a diferent opinion to the Roman Church we subjugated or killed.
It was during this time that the bible was translated. Times and festivals were instituted for pagan gods. Bible scholars translated the bible again because of this.
for good measure: YHWH says in His word by the way that He hates that thing that happens on december 25.
Pastor Di please check it out in Revelation 2. Read the word, study it. For your benefit, read many different translations and especially the greek and hebrew text. YHWH says He hates santa( or the ways of them).
Also, I agree with you Kristal on the church thing. It’s organised paganism. Where do the traditions come from? The symbolism?
The word of YHWH stands firm and does not change. It is inspired by Him and those who has the Spirit gains understanding. Romans 8:9 anyone who does not have the Spirit does not belong to Yeheshua.
Oops! I thought that church membership is enough and giving my life to Jesus is enough? I need to be filled by Spirit also?
I’m tired of men GAWD pedling the word for their own personal gain!
Kristal Giles at 7:32am June 9
Reggie,
It is a pleasure to deal with true family. Those who are without will never understand the fact that there is only one way: TRUTH.
I WILL NEVER LEAVE MY POST. MY FATHER PUT ME ON THE WALL, AND I WILL DO AS HE COMMANDS. WHEN IT IS TIME TO WAR, I WILL BLOW THE TRUMPET OF WAR, WHEN TIME TO REJOICE I’LL BLOW THE HORN OF PRAISE, WHEN WOLVES ARE DECEIVING THE PEOPLE I BLOW THE SOUND OF WARNING…… Read More
She doesn’t get it because she is a part of Mystery Babylon herself. The definition alone is enough for one who is sound in basic education to make the distinction.
Religious people don’t know anything about how and when the bible was translated, they don’t STUDY. I keep saying STUDY, however study is for those who desire true relationship with the Father. As a man who seeks to make a woman his mate studies her and learns of her, so are we to do for the Father.
The Father gave me a word from his heart a few days ago. I will post it again for your reading.
cont…
Kristal Giles at 7:54am June 9
THE WORD OF THE FATHER:
These false shepherds do that which feeds themselves and not the sheep, they are selfish, self absorbed wolves only thinking of what will profit them. They merchandise the people to eat what they think is the best, they wear the best all the while murdering those around them to maintain their spot at the table. The refuse to feed the flock, they refuse to heal the sick, as it benefits them for them to be lacking and continually grasping, they won’t correct that which is broken and in need of restoration, they don’t do as the good shepherd and go out to find that which is lost. Their focus is false authority, and by it they keep the sheep scattered and confused: making them prey for the enemy. These shepherds will be replaced with those who love the Father and love the sheep. These are those who will feed the sheep and do that which causes the sheep to walk in truth which brings safety. YHWH is against the wicked shepherds and they will not flee the wrath ..cont
Kristal Giles at 7:54am June 9
… of their reward for surely the Father has spoken it this day, and shall bring to pass: his wrath on all those wicked shepherds without hesitation. Watch and be amazed. They will not hide, as the blood of the flock is on their hands just as Abel’s blood could not be hid but cried out from the earth. Be careful family that you are not a part of the place that the Father will destroy. He has no respect of persons and deals with those who deceive and those who allow themselves to be deceived equally. The famine is coming for the wicked and all of their former delicacies will be shut off forever. Listen closely to the Father’s voice as he will speak clearly to cause deliverance those sheep that have been starved and those who are lost and bring them to himself. DELIVERANCE HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE. ONLY RECEIVE AND BE NOT AS ISRAEL WHO WHEN MADE FREE DESIRED TO GO BACK TO THEIR PLACE OF BONDAGE. BE FREE.
Kristal Giles at 7:59am June 9
Di, you remind me of the Epicureans and the Stoick’s who were oblivious to what Paul was speaking: by your blah, blah, blah….
Acts 17:16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. 17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. 18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, WHAT WILL THIS BABBLER SAY?
I love how in this walk we live out the scripture. It is utterly amazing to experience first hand what others endured and encountered for the sake of the Kingdom of YHWH.
Kristal Giles at 8:01am June 9
It’s the same attitude, “I would know what you are speaking of if it wasn’t some strange doctrine” after all this is my business…LOL
The philosophers said it this way, “He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange elohim/gods: because he preached unto them Yahushua, and the resurrection. 19 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? 20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.) ”
Kristal Giles at 8:05am June 9
Di, If you’d read all of the comments as you lied and said, why would you then ask me a question I already answered?
Your judgement of whom I speak for reminds me of the Pharisees with Yahushua.. same spirit…
Luke 11:14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered. 15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebubd the chief of the devils. 16 And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven. 17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. 18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub. 19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? … Read More
Kristal Giles at 8:20am June 9
“and just because you “CLAIM” to speak for the Father, doesn’t mean you actually do! In fact, you sound alot like the very organization that you criticize”
If I don’t speak for the Father, by whom do you speak? I know you by your fruit, although I have claimed no knowledge of you during this conversation. You however, have behaved as if you know me. My name is Kristal, yet you call me Kris. You are known by your fruit, your fruit is not hidden, but rather in plain sight.
The mere fact that you oppose me with such vigor says that i am different and you recognize it. I didn’t make any claims here of who I was. My fruit is visible as well. This is how men are known: BY THEIR FRUIT.
Kristal Giles at 8:24am June 9
the church will be cast down just as all the nations that have forgotten YHWH. The Body of the Messiah, the called out ones will never be cast down. AGAIN, YOU STAND CORRECTED. If you think Yahushua was building a church you are confused. He was the one sent of the Father to gather those who DESIRE RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. He predestined (Planned out destination and our deliverance) our outcome from the beginning. Not those who would and would not accept him. IT’S A CHOICE OF MAN, NOT OF YHWH.
Kristal Giles at 8:26am June 9
Furthermore, I didn’t tell you to do anything. You stepped in on a conversation between family and inserted yourself. DO AS YOU PLEASE.
YOU ARE DEFIANT, AND FOR THIS THERE IS A REWARD. AT LEAST YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH REGARDING THIS ONE THING….LOL
Food for thought: Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft… That Father hates it.
SWIM WELL DI
Pastor Di at 12:16pm June 9
Kris…you are indeed recognized by your fruit also. Your presumptous manner and arrogance is apparent and obvious and is no way anything remotely similar to the God of the Bible. You presume that I do not study which would be laughable if it werent so erroneous considering my background, my course of study, and my degree. But then of course, as previously stated, you know nothing about me!
Its funny, how much you resemble the abusive pastors in the church, with your threats of my impending “rewards” and YOUR declaration of MY defiance and quotes of “rebellion.” And all this because I dare to question you. Ha!
The bible teaches that the servant of the Lord should be apt to teach, “in meekness” instructing those that oppose themselves….I guess you missed that particular scripture.
Furthermore, your own “movement” is not without its own factions, separations, disagreements, etc…(much like the church). For instance, even the Hebrew/Greek pronunciations of Jesus’ name….
Pastor Di at 12:26pm June 9
are not without controversy and debate. I say to you what you say unto others STUDY…DO YOUR RESEARCH….
For instance you use Yahushua” in reference to the Messiah while others use “Yahshua”, “Yeshua” or “Yehoshua”. Pray tell, which one is correct? Everybody has a different “original language” supported argument. You have made your choice and just like the ‘church leaders” you abhor, you have declared your way as the “right way.” And I guess the hundreds of thousands of believers that have proceeded you in the past 2000+ years are doomed because they never learned Hebrew. Wow…who would have ever guessed God could be so petty and unfair. To put such necessity on the name and then leave it hidden for so long. To put it in a language and allow it to be translated and transliterated until it is unrecognizable. You would think God would not have allowed such buffoonery regarding his Word, but oh well, now so many will have to pay…
Pastor Di at 12:32pm June 9
But thank God now we have you, an enlightened 3rd party, who hears from the Father for the rest of us…(there you are looking alot like a church pastor again). Stay on the wall (another pastoral term) because I guess in some cases he really can’t speak for himself?
By the way, I certainly was not aware that I “inserted” myself in a family discussion. I mistakenly thought this was an open FB discussion. My bad! I will at this point “extract” myself as easily as I entered in and that with great joy. You may of course, continue to address me in my absence lol.
P.S. Never learned to swim 
Bryan Giles at 12:44pm June 9
Wow Babe, this is a Hot one. Let me read it all than I’ll join in. Had to paint those rooms yesterday so I missed Our facebook appt.
Bryan Giles at 1:30pm June 9
My Turn. LOL
This is funny. Every now and then a “Scholar” Or Church Elder (in this case Pastor) shows up with their chest poked out and their “Knowledge” and “Wisdom” dripping.
They ignore the basics and stick to the PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLIC instilled mindsets and beliefs. They claim they study, but do they?? They claim they Know History… But do they???
DI. Let me help you with some definitions… I Sleep with Kristal Nightly (YAH Bless) and know her VERY WELL. I eat of her fruit as her vine is very healthy. She partakes of my fruit, likewise.
Arrogance – having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities
What has Kristal Exxagerated??? BTW If you respected her you would call her by her name as she is not common to you. Kris?? That is a name/term of endearment. Saved for those who are intimate with her. We call you DI, because we only have DI as the listed name for you. Her listed name is KRISTAL.
Bryan Giles at 1:30pm June 9
So who has shown arrogance Here??? How important are you to yourself that you can call her Kris, yet you are NOT intimate with her.
Presumptuous – failing to observe the limits of what is permitted or appropriate
Who is the presumptuous one here? Kristal has quoted scripture to support her position, allowed the Holy Spirit to use her lips to speak prophetically (in case you missed that transition) and Has remained on topic, though you have strayed.
Who is Presumptuous here dear?
She presumes you did not study?? How would she do that???
Study – the devotion of time and attention to acquiring knowledge on an academic subject,
If you showed that you were actually knowledgeable concerning what you speak, perhaps she would “presume” or “infer” that you study, yet you show your ignorance when it comes to “translations” or “transliterations” of names.
Bryan Giles at 1:30pm June 9
I think the Kaballarians would find you grossly offensive. We do not have to accept false beliefs to respect the FACTS of the belief system. I do not ACCEPT islam, yet I respect the FACT that they serve an Elohim whose name cannot be mentioned. Hence the FACTS given to you concerning the ORIGIN OF THE USE of the name Adonai.
When one STUDIES their fruit shows what they have learned unless they have REJECTED WHAT THEY HAVE STUDIED. Has the truth been shone to you and your Corrupt mind rejected it?
I do not presume your mind is corrupt I see it is corrupt. In your own admission. Instead of dealing with the Context of Val’s Choice of scripture, you only dealt with the reference. You showed your corruption ONLY after you were undressed in public concerning your lack of “understanding” of the passage and how it applied to the topic at hand.
Bryan Giles at 1:30pm June 9
Let’s deal with your Apt to Teach scripture.
Ref #1
1 Tim 3:2 – A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
That phrase is the word didakitos.
Means apt (having a tendancy to do something) and Skilful in teaching… No meekness mentioned…
Lets check out the next one…
1 Tim 2:24 – 25a
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;
Again same word used there. didakitos
Patient…. Hmmm – anexikakos – meaning patient of ills and wrongs, forbearing.
Bryan Giles at 1:31pm June 9
You see, an impatient person, in this case, would be quick to tell you to beat it and throw you to the wolves. They wouldn’t stand there with you and as you spout ignorance, say nothing and allow you to wallow in the mud and filth of your deception and delusion. (Unless daddy said shake the dust…)
In Meekness – gentleness, mildness, meekness
gentleness of attitude and behavior, in contrast with harshness in one’s dealings with others
She has been very gentle. I don’t recall her unsheathing a knife and cutting you. I don’t recall her threatening your well-being. Perhaps you receive it as harsh because it grits you…
Interesting…..
IS being firm considered NOT meek in your world?? If so, I think you should spend more time in a dictionary and less time with your mouth open on things you know not.
Here is a little more understanding of gentleness for you….
Bryan Giles at 1:31pm June 9
gentleness may also be expressed in some instances in an idiomatic manner, for example, ‘always speaking softly to’ or ‘not raising one’s voice.’
In the presence of others, we find it totally NOT needful to raise our voices to speak his truth. Perhaps we show passion, but any GREAT singer or actor knows how to relay passion without changing amplitude.
Bryan Giles at 1:32pm June 9
Now for the last phrase of that verse
“Instructing those that oppose themselves”
Instructing = paideuo – to chastise. 2a to chastise or castigate with words, to correct
those = the person you are instructing
oppose themselves – to place one’s self in opposition,
Note it says ONES SELF in opposition, not opposing OTHERS, or the INSTRUCTOR. This is one who is being “self-destructive”
And why???? Do we do this????
Vs 26:
that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil
Note who does the recovering. The one being instructed by the One who is “apt to teach”
Can’t do it if no one teaches/instructs them though!!!
Bryan Giles at 1:32pm June 9
Again, you show your lack of STUDY. Pastors are to shepherd the flock with the Word of YHWH. Not the word of themselves. You are being dealt with FIRMLY because you bring Strange fire into this thread.
These postings are for the Ekklesia, not the Church. Let’s make that Plain. The Ekklesia are the Called out ones, The church.. well thats been defined. No need to do my Wife’s work over again. She is quite capable.
Now for you lack of understanding the Yahushua, Yehoshua, Yehsua, etc…
First. She did state Phonetics. So that eliminates Yehsua. But if you understood the Babylonian Talmudists, you’d know where Yehshua came from and why. Yaho or Yahu is a personal choice. Yahu is more proper, but Yaho is how some dialectically would articulate his name (in america) If you note, we spell it YAHU as that is more proper as shown by the texts, and MANY MANY MANY scholarly sources.
Bryan Giles at 1:32pm June 9
Even those that HATE him….
But here is what baffles me. If you know this, then why support JESUS which sounds nothing any of these 3??? Is it because you have been westernized??? Polluted by the filth of the Roman Church??? Funny to me, that the modern (Non-Catholic) churchs claim separation yet do all the Catholics do (minus priests, penance and indulgences)
Or do they??? Just under different names. Books, Tapes and Altar Calls….
Kristal Giles at 1:47pm June 9
Here is a clear example of why “churched folk” are so ignorant.
“who would have ever guessed God could be so petty and unfair. To put such necessity on the name and then leave it hidden for so long. To put it in a language and allow it to be translated and transliterated until it is unrecognizable. You would think God would not have allowed such buffoonery regarding his Word, but oh well, now so many will have to pay…”
Truth is never hidden, it is ignored. Funny you seem to know of some things related to the names, however what are you teaching besides Jesus? hmmmmm.
You are what I despise. False teachers. People who aren’t entering the kingdom and shut up others from entering in as did the Pharisees.
My husband has so profoundly expounded I need not add to what he has stated.
One last note to clear up your self inflicted delusion:
“titles or lack there of is irrelevant and insignificant (note by the way, you were the one that mentioned anything to do with my title…not me).
Kristal Giles at 1:54pm June 9
cont….
Oddly enough you go by the name of PASTOR DI. Yet claim that titles are of no importance… OK.
and in closing,
“You presume that I do not study which would be laughable if it werent so erroneous
considering MY background,
MY course of study,
and MY degree.
But then of course, as previously stated, you know nothing about me! ”
You lie so much you can’t keep your story straight. If position doesn’t matter why mention it?
Then you lie and say that I said I know nothing about you???? WOW…. I said to you, you are known by your fruit.
You’d better learn to swim and fast. You’ll need it. Twisting my words to make yourself look good is really boring Di. Your concoctions that I condemn those who don’t agree with me, and abuse people is hilarious.
NOW WE HAVE A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF PASTORAL CARE IN THE CHURCH. THANKS PASTOR DI, YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED THE FATHER’S WORDS.
Bryan Giles at 2:07pm June 9
Isa 25:1
O YHWH, thou art my Elohim; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy NAME; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.
WHat is his Name DI??? GOD?? How do you PRAISE HIS NAME if you DONT KNOW HIS NAME????
WOW. The Religious. DUMB AND STUPID….
How is that for HARSH. Or am I, as the Young folks say, KEEPING IT REAL!!!!
Bryan Giles at 2:13pm June 9
Isa 48:9
For my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.
WHAT IS HIS NAME DI??? IS IT GOD?? Which is NOT a name, but an indication of Position (Sorry Paga Position)
Is his name LORD?? Last I checked LORD meant Baal or Master.SO who are YOU praising.
LORD is not a translation, Mistranlation, or whatnot, It is a blatant CHANGE from what the ORIGINAL TEXT SAYS.
If the TEXT SAYS YHWH (????) not Lord (??????)
Learn some HEBREW PASTOR!!!!!
Serve BAAL in the guise of serving YHWH and see what he has to say… Or do you even care?????
Bryan Giles at 2:14pm June 9
Icing on the Cake:
Isa 52:6
Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
Get that?? HIS PEOPLE WILL KNOW!!!! KNOW!!!! KNOW!!! HIS NAME!!!!
HIS PEOPLE. Not the stranger, but HIS PEOPLE.
WHATS HIS NAME DI???
DO YOU KNOW IT??? IF YOU DO, WHY DONT YOU USE IT!!!!!
YOU BABYLONIAN TALMUDIST!!!! ?????
Bryan Giles at 2:17pm June 9
Isa 56:6
Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YHWH, to serve him, and to love the name of YHWH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
POWERFUL!!!!!
TO LOVE THE NAME OF YHWH!!!!!
WHATS HIS NAME!!!! AAAAAuuuuuu AAAAHHHAAHHH (vibrato Baby!!!)
WHAT”S HIS NAME!!!!!!
IT SURE AINT JESUS!!!!!
Bryan Giles at 2:22pm June 9
BTW DI, when you go to France do they call you LIVE????
Just Curious
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